CSCP S03EP16 – Looking Appsec from both side of the coin

CSCP S03EP16 – Looking Appsec from both side of the coin

CSCP S03EP16 - Looking Appsec from both side of the coin


CSCP S03EP16 - Looking Appsec from both side of the coin


Dustin Lehr started his software engineer career, which piqued his interest in cyber security. He is now the Sr. Director of Platform Security at Fivetran and an innovative cyber security leader online, dedicated to bettering the industry. In this podcast, he discusses how companies can build their security teams with new talent that doesn’t have traditional and technical backgrounds. They also discuss the cost of bad security, relationship building, and security championship programs. 


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0:00 Introductions

1:28 Early career as a software engineer and DOD

3:12 Quality and security

4:56 State of Industry

7:20 Training and mentoring new talent

12:06 Programs and non-profits growing talent

15:30 Utilizing talent

19:56 Background in psychology and human behaviour

24:40 Security teams must provide value

26:34 Relationship building

28:25 Security tests

31:50 Cost of bad security

36:06 Helping startups

39:50 Final Positive Message

42:36 Outro 


Dustin Lehr


Twitter @DustinLehr1 

“Let’s Talk Software Security!” on meetup.com 


Cyber Security and Cloud Podcast hosted by Francesco Cipollone

Twitter @FrankSEC42

#CSCP #cybermentoringmonday cybercloudpodcast.com 


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Francesco is an internationally renowned public speaker, with multiple interviews in high-profile publications (eg. Forbes), and an author of numerous books and articles, who utilises his platform to evangelize the importance of Cloud security and cutting-edge technologies on a global scale.

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